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NEC PC-9801-86 Recap notes

Did a quick recap of my new PC-9801-86, and thought I’d add some notes to simplify for other people. There’s an earlier Japanese caplist here that I used as a base, but they used THT caps for the recap which I didn’t want to do.

Note that C33 and C34 are bipolar caps. The mouser links below link to the proper ones, but in my actual recap I just used polarized capacitors which seems to work as well (the Japanese link above did this too). It should be better to use bipolar caps though, so I might swap them later.

Purchase list

MouserAmount
710-8650904430058
710-8650603430033
710-8652306400041
710-8650903430055
710-8652503400032
710-86523044000132
710-8650606400012
647-UWP1C4R7MCL2

Cap list

PositionCapacitanceVoltageDiameterMouserNote
C133μF25V6.3mm710-865090443005
C233μF25V6.3mm710-865090443005
C333μF16V6.3mm710-865060343003
C40.47μF50V4mm710-865230640004
C533μF25V6.3mm710-865090443005
C733μF25V6.3mm710-865090443005
C847μF16V6.3mm710-865090343005
C910μF16V4mm710-865250340003
C104.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C114.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C124.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C1333μF16V6.3mm710-865060343003
C144.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C154.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C164.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C174.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C184.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C194.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C204.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C214.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C224.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C234.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C244.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C254.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C264.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C274.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C284.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C294.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C301μF50V4mm710-865060640001
C311μF50V4mm710-865060640001
C324.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C334.7μF16V4mm647-UWP1C4R7MCLBipolar cap
C344.7μF16V4mm647-UWP1C4R7MCLBipolar cap
C3533μF25V6.3mm710-865090443005
C3633μF25V6.3mm710-865090443005
C3747μF16V6.3mm710-865090343005
C3847μF16V6.3mm710-865090343005
C394.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C404.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C424.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C434.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C444.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C4547μF16V6.3mm710-865090343005
C4647μF16V6.3mm710-865090343005
C4810μF16V4mm710-865250340003
C504.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C514.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C534.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C5433μF25V6.3mm710-865090443005
C5533μF25V6.3mm710-865090443005
C564.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C574.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C584.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C594.7μF25V4mm710-865230440001
C6033μF16V6.3mm710-865060343003
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PC-9821 V13 modded to use ATX PSU

Just writing down some quick notes for converting a PC98 V13 to run on a ATX PSU. This is especially useful if you are in a 230V country.

These use essentially a AT power supply, with an additional 3.3V connector. This is apparently also used on some standard PC’s, see this page which describes it towards the bottom.

The PSU is the same size as standard “small” ATX power supplies, which is 150mm (W) x 86mm (H) x 140mm(D). For the replacement PSU, make sure to find something with suitable power placement to fit the holes in the case. Modern PSU’s will usually have different fan placement, so you might have to track down some older ones.

The V13 uses standard AT for the main two connectors except:

  • -5V is not populated
  • PG (power god) is not populated

This means that the cabling is as follows:

  • Black = GND
  • Green = 3.3V
  • Red = 5V
  • Yellow = 12V
  • Blue = -12V

I simply grabbed two AT->ATX power adapters and moved one of the AT cablings to free slots for 3.3V and GND in the ATX adapter. One GND pin is unpopulated, but that should be fine (and does seem to work well).

The (probably nicer) alternative is to simply remove the cabling from the original AT power supply and crimp ATX pins on those, to get the colors completely right too.

For power, rip out the original AT powr wiring and hook up the blue and white wires to PS_ON and GND on ATX. This will make the PSU work similar to the original one.

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PC-9821 V13 Capacitor List for Recap

Did a full recap on my V13 PC-9821. Here is the cap list.
I did double check the values, but there’s still a possibility for errors, so I recommend checking them yourself too.

Motherboard

  • 1A2: 100u, 16v (6.5mm)
  • 1A9: 100u, 16v (6.5mm)
  • 1A10: 47u, 16v (5mm)
  • 1B13: 10u, 16v (5mm)
  • 1H1: 10u, 16v (5mm)
  • 1H2: 10u, 16v (5mm)
  • 1H3: 47u, 16v (5mm)
  • 1H4: 10u, 16v (5mm)
  • 1H5: 10u, 16v (5mm)
  • 1J3: 47u, 16v (5mm)
  • 1J5: 47u, 16v (5mm)
  • 1J6: 10u, 16v (5mm)
  • 2B5: 47u, 16v (5mm)
  • 2E1: 47u, 16v (5mm)
  • 2H7: 47u, 16v (5mm)
  • 2K3: 47u, 16v (5mm)
  • 3C5: 47u, 16v (5mm)
  • 3D1: 47u, 16v (5mm)
  • 3E11: 10u, 16v (5mm)
  • 3E12: 10u, 16v (5mm)
  • 5B1: 3300u, 10v (12.5mm)
  • 5B2: 47u, 16v (5mm)
  • 5C2: 47u, 16v (5mm)
  • 5M6: 47u, 16v (5mm)
  • 6F3: 10u, 16v (5mm)
  • 6N7: 10u, 16v (5mm)
  • 7F8: 10u, 16v (5mm)
  • 7J7: 10u, 16v (5mm)
  • 7K6: 10u, 16v (5mm)
  • 8G1: 47u, 16v (5mm)
  • 8J1: 10u, 16v (5mm)
  • 9D2: 47u, 16v (5mm)
  • 9D3: 10u, 16v (5mm)
  • 9E3: 10u, 16v (5mm)
  • 9F9: 10u, 16v (5mm)
  • 9G1: 10u, 16v (5mm)
  • 10B2: 47u, 16v (5mm)
  • 10D2: 47u, 16v (5mm)
  • 10F1: 47u, 16v (5mm)
  • 10G1: 10u, 16v (5mm)
  • 10K1: 10u, 16v (5mm)

Front IO Board

  • 1A1: 100U, 16V (6.5mm)
  • 1B1: 100U, 16V (6.5mm)
  • 1B2: 10u, 16V (5mm)
  • 1D1: 10u, 16V (5mm)

CBUS Riser

  • C1: 10u, 16V (5mm)
  • C2, C3: Unpopulated
  • C4: 47u, 16V (5mm)
  • C5: 10u, 16V (5mm)
  • C6: 10u, 16V (5mm)
  • C7: 10u, 16V (5mm)
  • C8: 47u, 16V (5mm)

The slots are 100 Pin 2×50 Edge connectors. 5mm between pin rows. Pin rows have 2.54mm spacing

Sound board

Component markings are super confusing here, but it has

  • 1x (near 1C14): 47u, 16V (5mm)
  • 5x (all the other ones) 10u, 16V (5mm)